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Next Season Changes

jeromef1

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Hey guys!

Here are the changes we will make for next season. We might add more, but actually they are the major changes. Everything will be added in the Rules, Settings, Points & Classification topic of the next season. We plan to start the signups this week or next week.

1. We will remove the incidents bonus points system because it is really hard to manage and the bottom of the results sheet look unorganise. We will still give 1 bonus point for drivers who have less than 3 incidents.

2. The 2 hours' practice session on Sunday will be added to the official league session. We will start the 2 hours' practice at 25% track state and we will clear it off for the qualifying. Marbles will follow from qualifying to the race.

3. We will have 2 race directors for next season, Austin Moore and Jerome Berthiaume. There might be some races where we will only have 1 race director. The purpose of having 2 race directors is to make sure that we have at least one. We will make an official topic in the next season section about the role of the race director and what they will/can do.

4. Pit Road Violation: It is mandatory to call on iRacing voice chat when you are entering into the pit lane (except for road and under cautious). Failling to do it will result a drive through penalty under green flag. This can be called by your teammate or spotter.

5. Jump Start Violation: The leading driver must keep a decent distance with the safety car and cannot jump the start. If the race directors judge that the leader has jumped the start, he will receive a drive through penalty.

6. In-race Cautious Penalty: Each drivers who cause a cautious during a race will receive an EoL. Second offense in the same race will result an EoL and a drive through penalty under green flag. Third offense will result a DSQ. If the race finish under cautious, the guilty driver will receive an EoL for the next race.

7. Season Cautious Penalty: After 3 races in which a driver cause one or more cautious, he will receive one race banned and will be on probation by the managers and race directors of the series. Further penalties might be applied to this driver or even season banned (case by case).

8. We will still keep the mandatory practice (10 laps) on Saturday or Sunday. Failing to run the minimum require laps will result an EoL.

9. Race you way in: All drivers who have missed 2 races or more and/or have had more than 105 incidents in the season will be added to the Race you Way in. We will host 2 races, one on July 16th at Texas and another one on July 23rd at Phoenix (Settings that we will use for the season). The season will start on July 30th and the management team of the championship will decide who will get a full time seat.

10. Still 32 seat available

11. Same maximum incidents.

12. Restart after cautious: The race leader will be able to select the line he wants for the restart (inside or outside). The black flag will be cleared by the race directors. This must be call on the iRacing Voice Chat at least one lap before the restart otherwise the race directors will not clear the black flag.

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Yeah I really enjoy these as well. I hope it equals out to us keeping our attendance and making the racing the way it used to be.
 

jeromef1

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It sure that incident will still happen, but we hope those changes gonna make people think twice before making a move.
 

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I think the being banned for a race if you have a total of three cautions thing is a little over kill. As you have it since if someone causes three in one race they will already be banned.
 

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Junkyardspecial said:
I think the being banned for a race if you have a total of three cautions thing is a little over kill. As you have it since if someone causes three in one race they will already be banned.

Thanks for bringing up the point. I'll discuss that with the management team!
 

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I like the changes. I hope it all works out the way we all want it too. The sad thing is, we shouldn't have to make these changes. Just look at the last race (Indy) 2 yellow flags that was just racing. Now the last lap crash, well I understand it, but I wouldn't have done it that way knowing i was running out of gas. I would say that everyone was patient and gave plenty of room. That's the way it should be every race. I cant tell you how many times I let JF pass me when he had a run and then got back by him later on. People backed out when going into a corner 2 wide and the race was good. I understand what Jaymes is saying about being parked after causing 3 cautions, but the way i look at that is if your running into other cars then its a problem and should be dealt with. If your spinning yourself out, then i wouldn't agree with the race ban. If no other cars are involved then I say its just racing. What are your thoughts?
 

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I think we could not penalize a driver if they spin bringing out caution. But it also depends on the incident. Last season we had a driver spin, then bs around on the inside of the track until a caution came out. Every incident will be reviewed by the race directors, and then make a decision.
I agree that its' kind of sad that things have to be changed. But in all aspects of sports, everything is a reaction to the previous season's success' and failures.
 

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If we have Race control maybe we can have a judgement call on if the caution should be blamed on the driver or if it was just a plain racing incident too. That way it could be fair. I love the rules, but I dont want to push people away if they are fearful they wouldnt be good enough to race with us.
 

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Every drivers are good enough to race with us I think, just lack of patience and over aggressiveness.
 

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Updated Rule #7
7. Season Cautious Penalty: After 3 races in which a driver cause one or more cautious, he will receive one race banned and will be on probation by the managers and race directors of the series. Further penalties might be applied to this driver or even season banned (case by case).

Added Rule #12
12. Restart after cautious: The race leader will be able to select the line he wants for the restart (inside or outside). The black flag will be cleared by the race directors. This must be call on the iRacing Voice Chat at least one lap before the restart otherwise the race directors will not clear the black flag.
 

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Junkyardspecial said:
If we have Race control maybe we can have a judgement call on if the caution should be blamed on the driver or if it was just a plain racing incident too. That way it could be fair. I love the rules, but I dont want to push people away if they are fearful they wouldnt be good enough to race with us.

I am in a league that does something like this. they have 2-4 people in the tower for each race. They look at the replay, call the driver who is at fault (eol for that driver), or call it just a racing incident(no one really at fault) with no penalty, or, on many occasions call it a netcode issue, again no penalty. And, they do not allow drivers to call out other drivers during the race. eol, or pass thru penalty.
 

jeromef1

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No 3 wide on restart... If a crash happen, you can be sure the faulty driver will know ;)
 

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I like the changes👍

I would add 40 drivers though. Top 15 in points automatically drive that week, the remaining 25 fight fir the remaining 17 spots via qualifying time. That will help stop the 22 car fields later on AND MAYBE even force guys to practice more knowing their Sunday race isn't an automatic entry.

Also, no chase format? This is 2017.
 

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Junkyardspecial said:
I think the being banned for a race if you have a total of three cautions thing is a little over kill. As you have it since if someone causes three in one race they will already be banned.

If it's three over the course of a full season I agree. But three in a race....ban him.  
 

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Ashbyj said:
I like the changes. I hope it all works out the way we all want it too. The sad thing is, we shouldn't have to make these changes. Just look at the last race (Indy) 2 yellow flags that was just racing. Now the last lap crash, well I understand it, but I wouldn't have done it that way knowing i was running out of gas. I would say that everyone was patient and gave plenty of room. That's the way it should be every race. I cant tell you how many times I let JF pass me when he had a run and then got back by him later on. People backed out when going into a corner 2 wide and the race was good. I understand what Jaymes is saying about being parked after causing 3 cautions, but the way i look at that is if your running into other cars then its a problem and should be dealt with. If your spinning yourself out, then i wouldn't agree with the race ban. If no other cars are involved then I say its just racing. What are your thoughts?

If you cause three cautions in one race a ban of one race is warranted.  I can't remember causing three cautions season long in any of my leagues.  So yeah, 3 in a race and enjoy the beach the following Sunday. 
 

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I have looked over what was posted in for season 7, and I do not see the word "fixed" are we running open setups for season 7?
I like the rule changes, but as some have said it should not have come to this.
This season is a wash for me been caught up in too much and faults of my own.
 

jeromef1

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We will take a decision after Texas if we are going open or fixed. But now that iRacing only provide setup for their actual season, and the low participation of the poll about Auto Club Setup, we may be forced to use Open Setup.
 
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Jeffery Ford said:
I like the changes👍

I would add 40 drivers though.  Top 15 in points automatically drive that week, the remaining 25 fight fir the remaining 17 spots via qualifying time. That will help stop the 22 car fields later on AND MAYBE even force guys to practice more knowing their Sunday race isn't an automatic entry.

Also, no chase format?  This is 2017.
with this season being broadcasted and the views on you tube and how we have done more ipacing then iracing we will struggle to get 20 to 25 drivers jeffery
 
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