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Gaming Rigs Continued:

Tron4949

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To continue from the discussion in the old Silvo thread, I am trying to upgrade so I can use 3 monitors.  LAcadien made a couple suggestions but I can't see them anymore.  Any help is much appreciated!  (sorry but every time I hit enter, it's making 2 line spaces, don't see formatting options)

Current Rig:
Power Supply: Seasonic X Series 1050w
Motherboard: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5
Processor: AMD FX 6350 3.9 GHz 6-Core, 14.0 MB Total Cache
GPU: 2X Sapphire Radeon HD 7850's Overclock Edition 
Ram (8GB total 4 slots): G.SKILL Ripjaws X-series 4GB (2x 2GB per package, X2 packages) 240 pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 
HD: Transcend 128Gb SSD

Looking At These To Potentially Replace/Upgrade (but I don't really know much about componants):
GPU: MSI Radeon RX 480 DirectX 8G 8GB 256 bit GDDR5 --- or --- MSI GeForce 1060 DirectX 12 6G 6GB 192 bit GDDR5
Processor: AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4GHz
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (4X 4GB) SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)
HD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB SSD

Am I going wrong anywhere? Overboard? Will it work? Do I need the processor/RAM upgrade?
 

V6onyourtail

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Interesting topic you have here.  Why not follow along on this one.  I just recently built a new rig and it is very fast.  Well, at least for me it is.  So, let me show you what I have and then you all can critique:)
Current Set-up:
1.Power Supply: Corsair AX1200i Platinum..1,200 watt (smart)
2.Motherboard: ASUS X99 Deluxe II using the 2011 v.2 Socket
3. Processor: Broadwell-E Intel i76850K 6 core 12 thread,3.6 to 4.0 GHz, 15Mb total Cache
4. GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 ACX 3.0 FTW..... EVGA is currently attempting to allow owners of the EVGA GeForce GTX 1060,1070, and 1080 ACX 3.0 FTW Gaming GPU's to upgrade it for EVGA's newer model (EVGA GeForce GTX iCX FTW2).  There is No difference in performance what so ever, but they are boasting 9 total heat sensors.  The trade in would cost me $99.00.  I think it is just a bunch of Hype to tell you the truth.  I am going to keep mine.  It has run perfectly since I installed it.
5. Ram: 32Gbs of Corsair Dominator DDR4 Platinum
6. HD: Samsung 850 EVO 2 Terabyte SSD.... Very nice addition
7. Corsair H115i water cooling unit with dual 140mm PWM fans
8. I use a total of 2 180mm PMW intake fans and 2 180mm PMW exhaust fans not including the two fans on the CPU cooler and the two hyper fans on the GPU.  I have run my system as hard as I can when Benchmarking or stress testing and still can not get the CPU to go over 50C, and the GPU to go over 55C.  This rig runs very cool all the time.

**I definitely have built in a little overkill, however I do want this rig to last awhile. The only thing I plan on doing to it to upgrade my existing rig is to add another EVGA 1080 FTW GPU/Dual SLI, and maybe upgrade my CPU to the fastest i7 extreme model (Intel i7 6950K w/10 cores and 20 threads per core). Other than that, I won't do anything with it.  I reserve my new rig just for gaming and nothing else, thus most of the time it is turned off or practicing for a race.  If I do upgrade what I already have it will be awhile for sure.  Just the i76950K costs about $1,600.00, and another GPU will cost about $700.00 as well.  Heck, those two additions by themselves will cost me more than $2,000.00.  I think I'm just fine right now.  I use my Laptop for most of my other gaming online. 
 

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Tron4949 said:
To continue from the discussion in the old Silvo thread, I am trying to upgrade so I can use 3 monitors.  LAcadien made a couple suggestions but I can't see them anymore.  Any help is much appreciated!  (sorry but every time I hit enter, it's making 2 line spaces, don't see formatting options)

Current Rig:
Power Supply: Seasonic X Series 1050w
Motherboard: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5
Processor: AMD FX 6350 3.9 GHz 6-Core, 14.0 MB Total Cache
GPU: 2X Sapphire Radeon HD 7850's Overclock Edition 
Ram (8GB total 4 slots): G.SKILL Ripjaws X-series 4GB (2x 2GB per package, X2 packages) 240 pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 
HD: Transcend 128Gb SSD

Looking At These To Potentially Replace/Upgrade (but I don't really know much about componants):
GPU: MSI Radeon RX 480 DirectX 8G 8GB 256 bit GDDR5 --- or --- MSI GeForce 1060 DirectX 12 6G 6GB 192 bit GDDR5
Processor: AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 8-Core 4GHz
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (4X 4GB) SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)
HD: Samsung 850 Evo 250GB SSD

Am I going wrong anywhere? Overboard? Will it work? Do I need the processor/RAM upgrade?

I think your gonna be ok with the upgrade you want to do. For the ram, i would go with 2x 8gb so u can upgrade to 32gb later. Make sure your motherboard is compatible with DDR4. I have DDR3 1866 and i think its fast enough. RX480 8 gb is a bit more power than a 1060 6gb and if you go with AMD CPU, better get a AMD graphic card.
 

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Here is my suggestion:

VGA Card: I really recommend to go with Nvidia (EVGA). Reliable and more performance than ATI, especially in multi-monitors.

CPU: Definitely Intel, no AMD. AMD are good for low cost computer, but when comes the gaming part, you want Intel. i5 or i7? It depends on what you plan to do with your computer. If it's just for gaming, i5 is WAY enough. If you plan on multitasking, or running 3 games at a same time (still don't know the purpose of that), go for a i7.

Ram: Gskill DDR4 16go. 32go is overkill, even with 3 games running, 16go is enough.

Power Supply: If you get 2 VGA Card, you want to look at more than 1000W, but if you stick with 1 VGA, between 750 - 850W should be enough.

SSD: You definitely need a SSD, I suggest to look at Samsung Evo.

Motherboard: It's the frame of your computer, the most important part of the build. Go for Asus, you won't regret it, and pay more than $175-$200 for it. Worth to spend a lot of money on it because it's the main part of the computer.

Have a good shopping!
 

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Jerome is bang-on. I was on my 3rd or 4th AMD based PC while I was in school (because they were cheap) and am now fully converted to Intel/Nvidia... You won't regret spending the money.
 

Tron4949

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Money is a factor though and for this rig all I care about is racing, mainly F1.  

Still worth switching? What makes switching over so much better?  What processor and card do you recommend?
 

V6onyourtail

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jeromef1 said:
Here is my suggestion:

VGA Card: I really recommend to go with Nvidia (EVGA). Reliable and more performance than ATI, especially in multi-monitors.

CPU: Definitely Intel, no AMD. AMD are good for low cost computer, but when comes the gaming part, you want Intel. i5 or i7? It depends on what you plan to do with your computer. If it's just for gaming, i5 is WAY enough. If you plan on multitasking, or running 3 games at a same time (still don't know the purpose of that), go for a i7.

Ram: Gskill DDR4 16go. 32go is overkill, even with 3 games running, 16go is enough.

Power Supply: If you get 2 VGA Card, you want to look at more than 1000W, but if you stick with 1 VGA, between 750 - 850W should be enough.

SSD: You definitely need a SSD, I suggest to look at Samsung Evo.

Motherboard: It's the frame of your computer, the most important part of the build. Go for Asus, you won't regret it, and pay more than $175-$200 for it. Worth to spend a lot of money on it because it's the main part of the computer.

Have a good shopping!


Jerome, it sounds based on your suggestions that my new build is fairly well put together and I am on the right track with my component configuration.  Also, I do have 32 GBs of Corsair Dominator Platinum Ram which is a bit of over kill, but like I said in my previous post, I wanted a rig that would last a bit longer than normal, so I would not have to start upgrading next year.  Simply by Going with another EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW/Dual SLI GPU and a quick upgrade to the Intel i76950K, my system should really hall the mail.  I benchmarked my GPU using #D Mark, and with just one video card I got a score of 23, 700.  Heck, when I was using TWO EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW's and a Intel i72700K in which both were overclocked, My 3D Mark score was no higher than 15, 500.  The 1080 really is a fantastic card.  Also, the ASUS X99 Deluxe II was probably the best and smartest addition to my new build.  This motherboard works so nice and literally works in a SMART mode all of the time when I use the default (optimized) bios setting.  No need to overclock my CPU or GPU with the X99 Deluxe II motherboard.  It automatically optimizes and synchronizes my CPU with my RAM and my video card in order to get the very best performance from every component.  Also, the XMP (extreme memory profile) is so nice.  It actually will overclock your RAM automatically, and should be turned On at all times when running a fast CPU.  My RAM will run at a maximum of 3000 MHZ, and even though my CPU is designed to run my DDR4 RAM at 2133 MHZ, the XMP profile will bring that up to 3,000 MHZ when needed, and then back down to 2133 under a lower CPU load situation.  I knew I was going to have to spend more money for the ASUS motherboard, but like Jerome said, the motherboard is the Frame for your computer, thus, the more efficient the motherboard, the more efficient the rest of your computer will be.  Anyhow, Thanks Jerome for "in a round about way", saying that my build was configured pretty good:) 
 

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Tron - before I really recommend anything here - tell me more about the monitors. What resolution are you wanting to run, and what refresh rates?

V6, your pc is more like a V12. Damn man!
 

V6onyourtail

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TRG said:
Tron - before I really recommend anything here - tell me more about the monitors. What resolution are you wanting to run, and what refresh rates?

V6, your pc is more like a V12. Damn man!

I can't remember how big my monitor is right now, but it is plenty big for gaming.  It is an older monitor (HP2711x), but it is 1920x1080p.  It really is a nice monitor and the clarity is great.  That was one component that I did not really need to upgrade at this time.  My new ASUS ZenBook Pro has a 3480x2160 display, and that is just to much.  In order to view many of my third part applications, I was literally forced to take it down to 1920 by 1080p.  You really can not tell the difference.   Anyhow, if you do guys have a suggestions regarding my big rig's monitor please send it my way.  I am open to all good suggestions :D
 

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I've ordered a new PC!! Here is my new rig:

Box: Antec Three Hundred
Power Supply: EVGA SUPERNOVA 750 G1 80 PLUS GOLD CERTIFIED 750W MODULAR
Motherboard: MSI H270 Gaming M3 ATX LGA1151 DDR4
CPU: INTEL CORE I5-7500 Processor 6M Cache 4 Cores 3.4GHZ
CPU Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-38
VGA: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Black Edition
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO Series MZ-75E500B/AM 500GB
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB (For Recording)
Headset: Logitech G230 Stereo Gaming Headset
Webcam: Microsoft Lifecam HD-3000 720p (For twitch overlay, my foot)
 

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You won't be disappointed with that EVGA card. What are you running for a display?

In other news - this showed up earlier this week.  :D

 

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TRG said:
You won't be disappointed with that EVGA card. What are you running for a display?

In other news - this showed up earlier this week.  :D

 
What's that!?

I'm running 3 x ASUS VE278H 27in Widescreen LED Backlit Monitor Black 1920x1080 2ms 2xHDMI D-Sub
 

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TRG said:
Where did you order from?

 
NCIX Canada with pricematch from Amazon & Newegg. I always order on NCIX because of their pricematch, and usually, they have free shipping.
 

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I recommend waiting for the AMD Ryzen which are on pre sale since last week. Check for the reviews on theses CPU on the web starting march 2nd. They're supposed to be as par with Intel and maybe more powerfull at half the price at least. Look for the AMD RYZEN 1800X at US$499 which is supposed to be as powerfull as the Intel core i7 6900k at more than US$1000. As for the Graphic cards, I always used AMD or ATI and was always satisfied. AMD will release new GPU cards named Radeon RX VEGA this spring who seem to be pretty powerfull.
 
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