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Fixed or Open Setup

Fixed or open setup?

  • Fixed

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Open

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Doesn't matter

    Votes: 1 12.5%

  • Total voters
    8
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jeromef1

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Jerome Berthiaume
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Ok, it seems there is some controversy regarding the setups, some want fixed while the other want it to be open. So I've created this poll to know if you want fix or open setup.

Thanks for your time.
 

rbowles28

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Mar 25, 2017
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USA, Georgia, Marietta
If it's going to be fixed, you can't use the default fixed setup for day when your race is at night. The Tuesday practice session is useless.

Also, if fixed, we shouldn't be lazy and use the iracing setups. We need to submit the best we have on the practice day.
 

PRL-Sammy H

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To me it sounds like all these people who are so great at making setups for this car should provide some.....just my thought.

I know when it comes to Oval Series we make and share setups together but I have yet to see such things happen in the Open Wheel cars. So maybe for the betterment of the league people could be a little more giving to help better the league. People want series to stick around and then when drivers stop showing up they wonder why. Sure we can leave the setups open, but for those guys who don't have the time to make setups when they stop showing up then what? The few guys who want open setups going to continue racing when there is only 3-5 people showing up every week? The problem with what's happening here is everyone is thinking about themselves and what's best for THEM.....The only ones who actually care about what happens across the board are the management for the league and we are thinking about EVERYONE, not just OURSELVES. We think big picture not what's going to please a couple members at the moment like Carlos who because it we run a fixed setup he doesn't want to be a part of our league, well that is exactly the kind of attitude we don't need. Those types of attitudes are what ruins leagues, not make them better. Instead of leaving maybe the smart thing would of been hey I will make a few or share a few setups that I have so that those who don't have the time will have something instead of nothing. Instead it's "I'm Out".......People want leagues to be successful and more seasons and series to come, stick around and help rather than dictate what works for yourself.
 

Carlos Neto

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Sammy, I'm searching for races open setup with DW12 and I found it here, so this is why I join it in the first place. There is a bunch of fixed leagues and also official series, but I had no interest on them. You guys deployed a championship with open setup and now you are changing your mind. It is your league and you can do what ever you want. But you have to respect my opinion. I never wanted to race fixed and I will not do it. There is no big deal on it. 
Next time think better before you go public with the championship rules. It may avoid situations like this one.
 

PRL-Sammy H

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Actually it was a simple miscommunication amongst the staff and it's the reason we corrected it after only one race instead of letting it go any further. Because you are not a staff member here you would not have the slightest idea what we do with just a handful of people, literally a handful and it's on a volunteer basis. So we do the best with what we have, and yes, we are human, so mistakes will happen and obviously this was one of them. I can't count on one hand how many mistakes our staff have made over the last 25+ championship seasons which given the amount of people we have volunteering to do this it's pretty remarkable. Sorry that our mistake ruffled your feathers and has forced you to resign, your choice, there is no need for me to respect your decision because it's YOUR decision, not mine. We have the rights to have our own opinion on matters. Unfortunately things just won't work out and it's sad to be honest. but as I say to all the others who know me, it is what it is. You don't want to race with fixed setup, so be it, it's that simple. It's a pole topic and we will see what everyone else wants but this is a loss either way cause neither party will be happy. I think these cars are more about the driver than the setup so I would think that good drivers can take the fixed setup and still get out and win the race where on the other hand a driver who does not know how or does not have the time to build a setup will take an open setup and still be at the back, so making this series open does nothing really except make the faster guys faster and slower guys slower or same pace they always were but the fixed setup levels the playing field. The fast guys will still be fast but the slower guys will find a purpose to race since they feel they have a chance. It makes no difference to me, I am the voice for PRL and the guys who cant build setups but as far as I am concerned makes no difference.
 

PRL-Sammy H

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Jerome and I discussed it and we are going to make it a open series.......hopefully the 5 guys who voted for it will be around for the entire season, I doubt you will have much more than. Hopefully you will prove me wrong!
 
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