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F1 2017 R15: USA Reactions

piboye

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What did you guys think of that race?  I think that the US Grand Prix generally gives some pretty good on track action.  What are your thoughts on the Verstappen controversy of him losing the podium for going off-track during an overtake?  What battle/move was your favorite to watch?  There were several times during this race they went wheel to wheel through a series of corners! 
 

piboye

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I'm going to respond first about the penalty. I do think that our racing and the ESports racing is better policed than real F1. They seem to apply the rules rather haphazardly. I think they should have a steward watching the onboard of each driver and marking each off-track violation. It would make it much fairer and consistent. If ESports can hire that many stewards, can't F1 do that?

About the actual penalty given. Maybe it was fair. I'm not sure. According to our rules, he had overtake on Raikkonen when he went into the corner. To me, Raikkonen seemed to close in and Verstappen went off-track to avoid contact and wasn't given the space to go into the corner. But, I'm not sure I've seen enough angles to judge it myself.
 

Zephyr

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I agree that they should be marking off-track violations. As u guys saw, EVERY single lap, every driver extended turn 9 and got an "advantage". Why is it only when he does it on a different turn that suddenly extending the track isnt allowed. U also can see some drivers cutting turn 14 and turn 19 as well and none of them got penalties.

U should either be penalized for cutting/extending any corner or not at all.
 

Tron4949

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Agree that they should be consistent with track limits, it's pretty pathetic how the police it, and pretty frustrating most of the time.  People were going wide all weekend on 10 and 19 but apparently the non-racer rule makers didn't consider it to be an advantage, and certainly not if everyone does the same thing.  

I think the Verstapen incident was much different though.  He passed Kimi on the inside of the track, and roughly a meter off the track.  You could do that, passing someone anywhere on most tracks if you make your own corner like that.  I feel like there is a difference between gaining time by 'widening' the track, which I still think should be penalized (we get it), and passing a person by cutting through the track.  It's just wrong. He blatantly left the track to gain a position.  

There are so many other 'rules of engagement' that I put on par with that move, even if legal. I really dislike forcing people off the edge of the track because you 'have the line' or are 'entitled to the line', I think that's a BS rule and a classless move on any drivers part - Hamiltons specialty on Rosberg, frankly I think it's just as bad as passing someone when you are off the track, somehow legal.  Bump passing is supposedly illeagle but I don't think I have ever seen someone penalized for it, and I continue to see it happen...incredibly cheap, about as cheap as drs :)

What makes one questionable pass acceptable over the other?  In current F1, the steward who is judging for the weekend...unfortunately.  Apparently this steward was the same steward who made the decision in Mexico last year...
 
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